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ATTENTION RESCUES! READ NOW!

Post by admin » Mon Jan 26, 2009 10:58 pm

This is very important and will help the pilots who check this board help you.

You absolutely must have the city, state and zip code of the sending and receiving locations in the SUBJECT line of your post. If you simply say, "Puppy needs help now" or "Need assistance Immediately", this does not let any of us know where you are when we are scanning the list. For example, if you have an animal who needs to go from Greer, SC to Akron, Ohio this is how your subject line should read:

Greer, SC (29650) to Akron, Ohio (44313)

Then put the rest of the information regarding animals who need the transport, their size, weight, condition, health certificate, rabies tag, email and phone contact numbers, etc. in your message.

We all have limited time and we need to make the best use of this board in order to help as many animals as we can. So please, read the guidelines on how to post before making your requests. We want you all to have the best opportunity to find a pilot who is along your route to help you!!

Also, please be courteous and monitor your request to see if pilots are replying and if so, keep them updated! This is extremely important. Pilots are generously volunteering their time and resources to those of us in rescue and at the very least we need to check the requests DAILY to see if a pilot has replied and if so, update them on the status of the animal in need.

I have been going through the board and seeing pilot offers with no response from the requesting party. If you ask for help then please please follow through. If you participate in this board, it is your responsiblity to keep communication going so that other animals will be helped if your request is no longer needed. It could literally be a life or death situation for an animal if a pilot has committed to your transport, thinking you will reply only to find that they missed helping another animal because you did not let them know the animal was adopted, went by ground transport, etc.

WHEN YOUR REQUEST FOR TRANSPORT HAS BEEN FULFILLED, OR YOU ARE CANCELING IT FOR WHATEVER REASON, PLEASE UPDATE YOUR SUBJECT LINE WITH THE WORD 'DONE' SO THAT WE CAN MOVE IT OFF THE ACTIVE BOARD. Just log in, open your post, click on "edit" upper right of post and when finished hit submit.

We are also going to list a new section called "Older Requests" where we will be moving any posts that have not been updated or replied for 30 days. If you reply to your own post, it will keep it on the active board.

Thank you all very much for your cooperation. It takes all of us to make this work!

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Re: ATTENTION RESCUES! READ NOW!

Post by Jon » Wed May 06, 2009 7:11 pm

Let me reinforce what Debi has said from my perspective as a pilot.

We pilots cannot possibly meet every request for transports. When I do a transport I try to make it worth while by filling the plane as much as possible. That helps reduce the cost to me on a per animal basis, but more importantly I get to help save significantly more animals.

I have limited time, just like everybody here. When I am seeking a transport request that is on my route, or even a little off the primary route I look only at the headings. Those of you with the best of intentions are losing opportunities to get a response unless the heading is as Debi describes above. I do not read the body of any post, NONE, unless the heading has a beginning and end point. I do not have time to read every post and I must scan them.

In addition to those seeking transports who fail to put the beginning and end point in the heading, I also will not read any posts that put a specific date in the heading. I am very sorry that animals are euthanized and I do my utmost to carry as many to safety as I can. I have carried 180 so far and about 70 just this year so I can't feel guilty if I do not look at posts with firm dates. My reasons are simple. A transport is not a single rescue or person event. The date may be critical to one person (or animal), but the receiving rescue, the pilot, and any other rescues who share in my planeloads of pups all have to agree on times and dates. It is too difficult to set up specific dates on short notice or no notice. On more than one occasion I have had to juggle transport dates due to weather, illness of the pups, or a variety of other reasons.

As long as I am being blunt, we pilots have limitations. Few of us are going to do a transport that requires an intermediate fuel stop. Once I get loaded, the next stop is the destination and delivery of my passengers to the receiving rescue. There may be a few pilots willing to stop halfway for fuel, but they are going to be rare. With that in mind rescues who post should recognize that the typical general aviation plane (and pilot) is likely to fly no more than four hours. Most a lot less. Four hours is a long time to be flying. I would suggest limiting transports to legs of 300 to 400 miles in a straight line. Use a ruler on a map to estimate that range.

The rescue should then treat that distance as a transport. At the end of that transport there should be a shelter or rescue or foster who is willing to care for the animals until the next leg can be done. If the pilots involved want to do all the legs in one day, that is fine, but to assure the legs will be done, break it up. That takes pressure off pilots to do legs when the weather is worse than expected, or to push on if there is a problem with the plane.

We want this bulletin board to be a great transport resource and if you follow the advice here there will be greater success. Thanks.

BTW, If nobody has thanked you rescues and shelters and fosters lately, let me personally thank you. You live with animal rescue 24/7 and make a huge contribution to saving animals.
Debi and I want to save as many animals as possible, and although our advice here may seem rigid, it is not. It recognizes that the best way to get attention for a transport is to be specific in the heading about locations, and eliminate conditions (like dates) that show zero flexibility. We all have schedules and limited time. Both these issues impact them in their own way.

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Re: ATTENTION RESCUES! READ NOW!

Post by Amelia » Wed Jul 29, 2009 7:13 pm

Wonderful advice, Jon and Debi- I want to pass on or reiterate a few requests to rescuers, mostly things our sender and receiver had already thought of, that I found extremely helpful in my first experience transporting a dog. Please feel free to edit/rewrite as necessary.

*I second Jon's plea to put start and end points in the original post. Remember that there are lots of towns with the same names so I'd suggest using City/State/Airport designator pairs. Cleveland/OH/BKL to Philadelphia/PA/PNE , for example.

*Be willing to be flexible for both dates and airports. If, for example, BigCity Airport is charging 6 bucks a gallon for avgas, plus landing fees, would you be willing to meet your flight at nearby Podunk Regional Airport, where gas is just under $4? It may take you 20 miles out of your way, but many of us are cutting things pretty close to the line to fly at all, these days, and a dollar or two a gallon makes a substantial difference when you're buying the stuff 50 or 60 gallons at a time. As for dates, flexibility is vital. I may look out the window and see nothing but fog the day you insist your doggy must fly. Sorrrrrry. Ain't gonna happen, at least until the weather improves.

*In your initial post, put the animal's size, weight, condition, and anything else a pilot will need to know. The animal WILL be crated or have a harness, right, for his own safety, and mine? And he will be freshly washed, walked, not fed the day of the flight, treated for fleas, and so forth? Any chance you have a clean blanket to put on the airplane seat, if the animal isn't to be crated? The nice dog we transported last weekend was squeaky clean, had a sturdy comfortable harness, and came with a nice big blanket that was comfortingly familiar to him, and covered our upholstery just fine. The thoughtfulness and professionalism was very much appreciated, especially as we hadn't planned on the furry passenger and weren't prepared ourselves.

*Handy websites: Want to know where your volunteer pilot's flight is? You can track it by entering the airplanes ID number, N3558H, for example, in the appropriate blank on http://www.flightaware.com, and it will show you where the aircraft is, and when and where it's expected to land, so you'll know fairly precisely when to meet your flight. You can also check out airports and fuel prices at http://www.airnav.com, so you'll already have an idea of what airports are convenient to you and your volunteer pilot.

* How do I say this without sounding grumpy and mean? It just happened again, and I gotta say: If you're sending me a PM with a request, um... could you please be reasonable? I understand that you're anxious to get your rescued critter to her new home. But please think about it beforehand and glance at a map. Understand, please, it's just too much to ask that I drop everything, take off work, plan a 1400-mile trip right now, and spend a very, very long day in a little airplane tomorrow, battling summer thunderstorms, with one scared, unhappy, possibly airsick stray cat for company. And it makes me feel bad to say "No." Check it out: a trip of 200 or 300 miles, sure. That makes a fun afternoon of it for a good cause. And the 1000-mile trip is possible, too, but probably only if I'm already going that far anyway. Break your trip into do-able segments, post them on the need-a-ride board, and see what happens.

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Re: ATTENTION RESCUES! READ NOW!

Post by pilotmike » Fri Aug 28, 2009 8:06 pm

In an effort to "be good" in posting requests, some posters are perhaps being too good. I notice an increasing number of posts specifying precise airports, eg "KABC to KXYZ". However, keep in mind there are many thousands of airports in the US, the codes for most of which are not known to us by memory. Thus, I can't tell at a glance if "KABC to KXYZ" is anywhere near me (unless those are major, well-known airports), and I won't open the message to find out. It's easier, and more effective, to say "Aardvark, AL to Kazoo, KS" -- we'll work out with you the airports if the trip seems plausible.

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Re: ATTENTION RESCUES! READ NOW!

Post by maxie » Mon Feb 01, 2010 10:32 pm

I'd like to thanks administrator debi, jon and all who have responded to this thread. Am trying desperately to get involved in this program. Have responded to only 2 requests for transport so far. The first wasn't even acknowledged, the second, after two email prompts told me she'd call and update me on a transport for the next day. Which of course she did not. Said she was busy with her rescues. I suppose so busy she didn't have two minutes (she had my phone no.) to give a heads up on this for planning. As far as I know the transport still hasn't been done. It's very difficult to make plans in this environment. Do I pull the passenger's seat out of the plane and get gassed up and keep check the weather or do I plan on doing something different with my weekend, like volunteering at my local shelter? This is very frustrating. If you have no intention of following through then please don't post the request in the first place. I belong to another group who believes that you cannot waste time on those who demonstrate that they don't want help because while you're wasting your time on them, one who genuinely needs your help could die. People Please, we must pay attention to detail! Thanks for listening to my rant.

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Re: ATTENTION RESCUES! READ NOW!

Post by admin » Tue Feb 02, 2010 12:05 am

maxie wrote:I'd like to thanks administrator debi, jon and all who have responded to this thread. Am trying desperately to get involved in this program. Have responded to only 2 requests for transport so far. The first wasn't even acknowledged, the second, after two email prompts told me she'd call and update me on a transport for the next day. Which of course she did not. Said she was busy with her rescues. I suppose so busy she didn't have two minutes (she had my phone no.) to give a heads up on this for planning. As far as I know the transport still hasn't been done. It's very difficult to make plans in this environment. Do I pull the passenger's seat out of the plane and get gassed up and keep check the weather or do I plan on doing something different with my weekend, like volunteering at my local shelter? This is very frustrating. If you have no intention of following through then please don't post the request in the first place. I belong to another group who believes that you cannot waste time on those who demonstrate that they don't want help because while you're wasting your time on them, one who genuinely needs your help could die. People Please, we must pay attention to detail! Thanks for listening to my rant.
maxie, I understand your frustration and have begged the folks who make a transport request to please be considerate and update their posts. With such a large number of members here, people truly need to be responsible for keeping the lines of communication open. I strongly believe that if no one replies to your response, then try one more time in case the email, voicemail, etc. got lost along the way. If you do not receive a reply after the second attempt, move along. There are too many other animals and rescues out there who need your help and appreciate your assistance. Once you find that "good fit" you will likely have repeat flights working with those same dedicated volunteers. Something else to consider if letting your local shelter know that you can help in this manner. Maybe they have a relationship with other shelters or rescues either bringing in or sending out animals. Thank you for hanging in here and feel free to post constructive rants any time!

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Re: ATTENTION RESCUES! READ NOW!

Post by Jon » Tue Feb 02, 2010 8:56 am

Maxie,

I share your frustration at times and as harsh as this sounds I have learned to just move on if my emails go unaswered. There are far more requests for transports than we can possibly handle. I cannot ever hope to do all that are requested so I do only those that makes sense in terms of distance and that are requested by reliable responsive rescues.

If a rescue is unresponsive when you are trying to set up a transport or respond to a request, consider what will happen if you have a plane load of animals and you cannot get a response to a need such as if you have a problem.

Having said that I try to always answer individual personal requests, but I do not respond to requests that I cannot do if the email is a global one sent to many pilots. I get 30 to 40 emails per day, most of which need some attention on my part so to avoid having a life tied to the computer I do have to focus on the critical items.

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Re: ATTENTION RESCUES! READ NOW!

Post by N976T » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:10 pm

Debi,
You might want to mention in future post that it helps us pilots if they can give us the distance in nautical miles so we know how far and how long a particular trip might take. Also, if they know the 3 letter airport ID (which non pilots may not know anything about) that would help also so we can look up those specific airports to find out pertinent information.

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Re: ATTENTION RESCUES! READ NOW!

Post by Steve Foley » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:26 pm

N976T wrote:Debi,
You might want to mention in future post that it helps us pilots if they can give us the distance in nautical miles so we know how far and how long a particular trip might take. Also, if they know the 3 letter airport ID (which non pilots may not know anything about) that would help also so we can look up those specific airports to find out pertinent information.

Mike
Hi Mike,

In my opinion, the requester should not specify an airport, as most people don't even know where the local GA airport is.

I've recently added two links to the requests that let you pull up a map showing the transport route on sectionals. One links to skyvector and the other to runwayfinder. Look at any transport request, and click on the link that says 'plan flight with skyvector' or 'plan flight with runwayfinder'. One is green and the other is purple.

It is really up to the pilot to determine the airport, and it's up to the rescuer to get the pup(s) to the airport.

The airport I flew out of had a 1900 foot runway. Many pilots don't feel comfortable flying there. The nearest commercial airport is a mere 4.3nm away, but many people think that it is closed because there is no commercial activity. This is specifically why I've set the forum to ask for zip codes. It's information the rescuer can easily find, and will plot out the course close enough for a pilot to make a determination as to what airport to use.

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Re: ATTENTION RESCUES! READ NOW!

Post by Jon » Tue Feb 09, 2010 3:32 pm

I'd like to add to Steve's comments which are correct.

When I am speaking to rescues about a transport I will appear to be inconsistent with the selection of an airport. Sometimes it is important for me to use a large airport with good instrument approaches. Other times if weather is forecast to be very good I want to use the smaller airport with cheap fuel.

I also am looking to save fuel ($14,000 worth in 2009 for PNP) so if I can get a rescue to drive 50 miles closer to me, it may save me as much as $50 in fuel cost. So Steve's recommendation to put in your start and end locations is valid and as a pilot if gives me a starting point to determine which nearby airport is best for the transport (and me).